Tuesday, 29 April 2008
Following up on yesterday's post, we always hear that there are wonderful arguments for god and tons of evidence. Ask about either of these, however, and the only sound you invariably hear is crickets chirping. So, how about it? Theist readers, bring your evidence and arguments for god. Bring the good ones that I keep hearing about. Dust off your arguments from C.S. Lewis, Aquinas, or Plantinga and astound us. I'm an open-minded fellow and if your argument is good enough you could convert a heathen!
UPDATE (5/11/08): It's been almost 2 weeks and after 18 comments there have been zero arguments for god or Xianity presented, zero evidence presented, and a whole lot of anger from Xians. One Xian commenter has had the intellectual honesty to admit that (s)he has no evidence, and for that I applaud her/him. Where are the great arguments for Xianity I'm always hearing so much about?
Monday, 28 April 2008
So, what are these serious theological arguments? Aquinas's 5 proofs that have been destroyed repeatedly? C.S. Lewis's shoddy arguments trying to apologize for god's crap treatment of all of us (we have to suffer so that we can appreciate not suffering; because god couldn't have created a better world?), or Plantinga's off-the-wall ideas about how it's rational to believe in god since we can't be certain that he doesn't exist (making it also rational to believe in Baal, Allah, FSM, Russell's floating teapot, etc.)
Ah, but dismiss those arguments and make counters and apologists will simply note that you are wrong, that you haven't really addressed the issue, and then go on their merry way not bothering to actually look at your argument or show you what is in error. Why? Because you can't possibly be serious or erudite enough to point out the holes in such intellectual heavyweight arguments unless you also have a Ph.D. in making stuff up. Well, it doesn't work that way. I don't need to have a Ph.D. in theology to be able to read the Bible and see the holes in it. I don't need that Ph.D. in order to read the arguments of the theists and see the holes in them. Most of these arguments are third rate, yet theists have simply accepted them as great simply because of confirmation bias. How many times have theists come here and simply said that our logic is full of holes but not been able to back it up?
OK, rant over.
Saturday, 26 April 2008
What is it about being virginal or not having sex that makes one pure? Why is sex considered dirty and why do Xians have such a pre-occupation with the sex of others? This compulsion to label anything sexual as shameful is one of the more perverse parts of Xianity. Apparently god gave us something enjoyable and necessary, then decided that it was a bad thing we should avoid. But he gave us free will as well; which is a bad thing in his eyes, since he made us vulnerable to temptation. Is there anything about Xianity that makes sense?
Do Xians love their families? According to Jesus, they shouldn't. First he preaches that children who don't honor their parents should be killed - as the OT law says (Matt 15:4-7); but then he contradicts himself: we should not call our fathers dad, since only god can be "father" (Matt 23:9). We should abandon our families for god (Matt 19:29), etc.
In one particularly telling passage Jesus, in Luke 14:26, instructs his followers to hate their father mother wife children brethren and sisters. Wow. It doesn't stop there though. He even says that one must hate oneself in order to be a follower of him. So, how many of you Xians hate yourselves? Is that healthy?
Thursday, 24 April 2008
Wednesday, 23 April 2008
A type of fly like to propogate their genes by laying eggs. In the heads of ants. When these eggs hatch they turn into maggots. Which eat through the brain of their hosts until they are large enough to survive in the wild.
The ichneumon fly is parasitic in the living bodies of caterpillars and the larvae of other insects. With cruel cunning and ingenuity surpassed only by man, this depraved and unprincipled insect perforates the struggling caterpillar, and deposits her eggs in the living, writhing body of her victim.
Do you still believe in God?
Tuesday, 22 April 2008
Monday, 21 April 2008
If Xians enjoy their life and think that Jesus wants them to, they haven't read the Bible very well. In Luke 16, the parable of the rich man contradicts this - rich man is sent to hell while Lazarus goes to heaven. (What is Lazarus doing in Abraham's bosom? Doesn't god frown on gayness like that?) The only explanation for this is that the rich man had a good life on Earth, so he's being punished for it. Lazarus gets to go to heaven because he had a rough life. So, if you are a Xian and you have a good life, what does that tell you? If Jesus wants you have fun then he wants you to go to hell, according to his parable.
Sunday, 20 April 2008
A persistent refrain in the apologist's bank of sound bytes is that god killing people (committing genocide like in Noah's ark or simple death) is not a bad or evil thing because god created us, hence he can destroy us at will. Is this really the case though? Parents create their children, yet we cringe at the thought of a parent harming its child. So, why is it acceptable for god? Answer: it isn't. When god brought us into the world, he gained a moral imperative to treat us with justice, fairness, etc. It would be sheer cruelty to bring a person into the world with the express purpose of treating it badly, yet this is exactly what god does. god is not love, god is immorality and injustice.
When god sends people to hell, he is further guilty of immorality. He brought that soul into existence knowing that he would end up in hell for eternity being tortured. This is simple sadism.
Saturday, 19 April 2008
Why do Xians pray? Apart from the fact that prayer studies have shown that prayer is not effective, does it really make sense to pray? Does god not know what you want to have happen? Isn't god aware of everything? Do you really think that god will heal some child of cancer if you simply remind him that he should?
BTW, why does Jesus pray? Isn't he simply praying to himself? What's the point in that?
I think the human brain cannot easily accept that there is nothing else beyond this reality; because this is the only reality our brains have ever known, therefore the brain in its infancy seeks to incorporate and look toward a wishful lie, to satisfy its reason for existence and its own continuation, (a self-made delusion) to keep the brain from thinking that its only purpose was for a one shot deal here on earth: a promised paradise thought up only to be confirmed in our holy books penned by primitive men.
But then, a promised paradise must have certain stipulations to be met, since nothing is really totally free, (from our world view); therefore there must be loops and hurdles and boundaries one must overcome - there is a price to be paid - something must be sacrificed before we can achieve a preconceived goal. So naturally before we can enter a pure and holy sinless place such as a Heaven, our souls need to be cleansed and washed from our filthy wicked sins. So how do we physical beings do this from earth? We need to sacrifice a pure sinless person to take on our sins for us, so he can cleanse our filthy souls before we can enter the pure sinless paradise. So what constitutes and guarantees a sinless person? A pure sinless virgin, that has not been touched (down there) by a man - heaven forbid that a man toucheth a woman before she is wed. But if she is clean and untouched, then away we go, the gate to salvation has been opened, it's time for a savior to be born. It was all so simple - just a few phrases to explain the secret to salvation was all that was needed, but instead we get volumes upon volumes to shore up the lies that man has created from his fear of death and now he cannot back out of.
God wants us to be with him so much because he loves us, but it is totally out of his hands and so he had to divide his power and relinquish his authority over to his predestined son, oh after some consideration of about 4000 years, to help god save and tally lost souls.
Is the Bible god really in total control? Since he lost control of evil in heaven in which he himself created, according to Isaiah 45:7
The beginning of all evil for us humans, it was the woman's fault!
She is the cause of all wickedness and evil brought upon this world. Had she just not listened to that evil Satan. Ironically it is the evil Female (Mary) who rescues and bails all of us heathen infidel sinners out of eternal punishment, by rejecting a man's touch down there and keeping herself pure and having born a messiah out of god's love for each of us and she delivered us all a savior baby, Jesus The Christ Saviour Of Nasty Rotten Souls.
Were the Bible writers totally insane or is it just me, for not being able to believe such idiotic nonsense? What do you think?
Wednesday, 16 April 2008
What makes someone righteous? I think the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is a good guide here. It starts with the ridiculous scene between god and Abraham where the omni-benevolent, all-loving god decides that the he needs to commit mass murder on all the inhabitants of S and G. Abraham barters with him and gets god to agree to spare the righteous inhabitants. If Abraham had not interceded, then god would have simply killed the whole lot of them (no pun intended).
So, god sends his angels down and Lot gives them shelter, thus making him righteous. Apparently. It also - apparently - makes his family righteous somehow; but probably because he only had a wife and two daughters (although it should be noted that the sons-in-law were to be spared as well) and well, they're just property, right? Well, god generally treats women that way, so at least this is consistent. Anyway, this righteous man tries to placate the crowd of angel-sodomizers by offering to send his two daughters out to be raped. (Interesting side note: his daughters were married, yet they were still virgins for some reason?)
Long story short, they flee the city and god destroys all the other inhabitants, but decides his wrath is so great that even looking at the destruction shall turn one into a pillar of salt, without warning of course. So, Lot's nameless wife looks back (she doesn't need a name since she's Lot's property as per god's decrees, right?) and is instantly turned into salt. How dare she look back at her home that she just had to flee! Of course, Abraham looks at the destruction too and nothing befalls him, but perhaps this is explainable in that he might not have watched it happen but only seen the aftermath. Any way you slice it, no one comes out looking good in this story.
Sunday, 13 April 2008
Is god omnipotent? Not if you read the Bible he's not. Check out Judges 1:19 where god is unable to defeat an enemy that has iron chariots.
Of course, in a stunning contradiction, god has acquired the ability to defeat iron chariots just 3 chapters later in Judges 4:13-16. I wonder if he's mastered defeating steel chariots yet. Would my car count as a steel chariot? Do you think that if god appeared to me I could run him over and he'd be defeated?
Saturday, 12 April 2008
Why did god create hell? Aren't we told that Jesus's message is one of redemption? Yet god creates a place where no redemption is possible, where people are tortured infinitely for finite crimes - making god infinitely unjust. The real question is, why do Xians try to save people from hell? Isn't it part of god's plan? If god didn't want people to go to hell, then he wouldn't have created it; he did though, and in a way where most people will go. As a Xian, by trying to save people from hell, aren't you counteracting god's will and plan? Shouldn't Xians be happy and gleeful when people die and burn - since it's god's plan coming to fruition?
Incidentally, if god is omnipotent, why can't he tackle Satan?
Friday, 11 April 2008
Our origins and behaviour should be studied by scientists and philosophers; religion is the alchemy which preceded chemistry, an explanation by the ignorant.
Wednesday, 9 April 2008
Isn't it weird that atheists never experience miracles; that those apparently chosen by God to bear witness are those that will unquestionably accept what they see as reassurance for their strange convictions? Further, many miracles are incidences of 'God' making up for errors that could only have been caused by himself: a child with cancer, an injured man, etc.
Monday, 7 April 2008
Exodus 13...I love Exodus 13, because in it god commands the sacrifice of every newborn male Jew and head of livestock to commemorate god killing the firstborn of every Egyptian family. Very kind of him.
Then, he put a beacon of light up for Moses and his crew to follow...where they toiled in the dessert for, what, 40 years or so? C'mon. Do you mean to tell me that it took them 40 years to walk from Egypt to Israel? Of course, there's not a shred of evidence left behind of this massive exodus. Nothing has been found in the dessert to show that any of this took place.
So, Xian readers, have you actually read this stuff?
Sunday, 6 April 2008
Think about this. When god created the universe, even before he started creating, he knew what all of us would do, down to the smallest detail. He knew what we would think, feel, act upon, etc. Knowing all of this, he set the universe in motion. Had he wanted it to be different, he would have set up the universe to work differently; but he didn't. Since god knows all that I will do, say, think, feel - and has known it from the beginning - my path has been determined since god willed the universe into existence. If he didn't want me to be an infidel, then why did he make me one?
Why do theists - usually those who reject evolution - consider god to be the default condition? A recent commenter asked whether man can create life from dirt (only the Bible says it did); so to prove evolution dirt has to be made. I assume that this means he'll keep his god belief until such time, but why? Why is god belief the default for theists? If science has an unanswered question, is it god? This is fallacious reasoning surely?
To address this specific example, we know how the Earth formed - which has nothing to do with evolution. Why is this not enough? Should forensic scientists have to kill someone in the lab to prove that a murder happened? Of course not, so why should scientists have to re-create the universe in order to prove that the Earth isn't 6000 years old?
Saturday, 5 April 2008
If God only sends those who acknowledge him to paradise then why create those who are prone to infidelity and why so much evidence against himself? Why send one Jewish person to tell the 'truth' when he could've just made everyone Jesus. A whole planet full of Christs.
See how he never exerts his wrath on the gentiles anymore? We had a bit of rain down in England but "two cats soaked" hardly compares to "everyone except Noah." They didn't even think about abortion in Gomorrah. They weren't even that liberal three thousand years ago.
I think God's given up and moved somewhere more conservative. When they stopped stoning people in Alabama that was it for Jesus.
Friday, 4 April 2008
I'll make the minor assumption for this post that God created the Earth and Heavens in seven days. Strange that it took only 24hrs to create approximately 1000000000000000000000000 stars and their respective planets, whereas the humble Earth took a week - but I'll let that pass for now.
Surprisingly, though, modern Christians don't seem to have much respect for his installation. "A nuclear war would involve nothing more than the transition of many millions of people into the love of God, only a few years before they were going to find it anyway": coming from the Archbishop of Canterbury. This begs the question regarding the necessity of us being here in the first place; couldn't Jesus use his omnipotence to judge us and then place the good in Heaven (which must be better anyway).
Why are we here then. If anyone has the answer I'd love to hear from you.
Thursday, 3 April 2008
I checked this out on some biblical sites, and they don't dispute it. They even patronise atheists as being 'unable to find the flock again'. Then they go further and praise qualities such as 'lack of direction' and 'defenseless':
"Even the fowls of the air have some type of defensive mechanism. Not so with sheep!"
And on that profound thought I'll finish.
Wednesday, 2 April 2008
According to Fox, 71% of Americans believe in the devil. A big red monster with sharp horns that punishes bad people. I suppose that if you believe in Jesus you must believe in Heaven, and Hell, and so by that line of reasoning you can't ignore Satan.
Apparently, he is responsible for all evil in humans; which is strange, because that makes Jesus a bit redundant, really, in 'cleansing us of our sins' - it isn't his responsibility. Besides which, if all sin is down to Satan - who God created - then God is to blame.
And, by the 'holy trinity' rule, God is Jesus as well. So when Jesus takes the crap for all our sins on the cross, he is, in effect, taking his own medicine. It's all very confusing.
PS: Simon Peter says he has a stick as well.