tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post6798558744097874474..comments2023-12-28T04:24:34.561-05:00Comments on Why I Hate Jesus: MR. Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12384772889207036678noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-54097938814875843112013-09-18T09:43:56.743-04:002013-09-18T09:43:56.743-04:00Or just start doing science / engineering and actu...Or just start doing science / engineering and actually help the world instead of being so selfish that you just keep telling others they're all gonna die in an apocalypse and go to hell, just because they believe that someone who was never seen and there is no disproving against the bible being faked, is not used for mass population control...<br /><br />Look I don't care if you believe to anything, it's everyone's own opinion. But please don't share it around, especially to children, which are so much needed to gain scientifical literacy. And you don't even know how desperately we need that! See some Richard Dawkins articles/videos and you'll understandHyperionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773860722794000886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-49923097410436944982013-09-18T07:57:32.137-04:002013-09-18T07:57:32.137-04:00You shouldn't hate Jesus, you should be gratef...You shouldn't hate Jesus, you should be grateful that you're still living until today. I know that being a disciple of Jesus is a pain, but your burden will be all over when the apocalypse and many people die, and in that day people will believe that God truly exists but it will be all too late because then you will be sent to hell, while the believers were sent to heaven. So you guys who mocked your creator, savior, and the God who died for ALL of you, you guys must repent RIGHT NOW!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-6876746389243841262013-09-17T11:19:15.978-04:002013-09-17T11:19:15.978-04:00Jesus loves disease. He sits with god and watches ...Jesus loves disease. He sits with god and watches his handiworvand tells god that they should praise you for their suffering and not let them die but more painAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-67005255789574002592013-06-11T23:18:43.077-04:002013-06-11T23:18:43.077-04:00Albert Einstein is sort of like the opposite of Ad...Albert Einstein is sort of like the opposite of Adolf Hitler. <br /><br />Both sides of any number of arguments wish to DISTANCE themselves from Hitler, and claim him for the opposing viewpoint. Quotes abound to accomplish the task, for both sides.<br /><br />Both sides of any number of arguments wish to ALIGN themselves with Einstein, and deny him to the opposing camp. Quotes abound to accomplish the task, for both sides.<br /><br />Both men have quotes that run the gamut.<br /><br />It is clear to me that theoretical physicists of the caliber of Einstein and Stephen Hawking often speak of concepts like the "motion of the spheres" and the "the orderliness of universal design" in grand poetic terms that use the word "God" to express "that which we do not comprehend."<br /><br />Stephen Hawking has said over and over that he has been guilty of using "God" in this way. He also has been very clear (recently) about his own atheism.<br /><br />Einstein clearly said he didn't believe in "a personal God." He also said a lot of other stuff that muddies the water. Einstein can't be pinned-down.<br /><br />Much like Hitler, both sides try to use Einstein to further their own agenda. (I believe a hand-written letter from Einstein was just found that makes his agnosticism much clearer, but, I have no doubt, the controversy about him will rage on.<br /><br />Because they have quotes that are "all over the map," both Hitler and Einstein are kind of useless in an intellectually-honest discussion. Both men just polarize the discussion and tend to make both sides more firmly entrenched in their original ideas.<br /><br />Ultimate evil dictator guy and ultimate super-human genius guy, both, ultimately, bring to much emotional baggage to the discussion.Tigerboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794153016636051988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-53189234761913168602013-06-11T22:23:16.033-04:002013-06-11T22:23:16.033-04:00"It will not do to investigate the subject of..."It will not do to investigate the subject of religion too closely, as it is apt to lead to Infidelity."<br />-- Abraham Lincoln, Manford's Magazine<br /><br />"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession."<br />-- Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Joseph Lewis in "Lincoln the Freethinker"<br /><br />"The only person who is a worse liar than a faith healer is his patient."<br />-- Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Victor J Stenger in Physics and Psychics<br /><br />"While it may be fairly said that Mr. Lincoln entertained many Christian sentiments, it cannot be said that he was himself a Christian in faith or practice. He was no disciple of Jesus of Nazareth. He did not believe in his divinity and was not a member of his Church. If the Churches had grown cold -- if the Christians had taken a stand aloof -- that instant the Union would have perished. Mr. Lincoln regulated his religious manifestations accordingly. He declared frequently that he would do anything to save the Union, and among the many things he did was the partial concealment of his individual religious opinions."<br />-- The New York World (about 1875), quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beleifs of Our Presidents, pp. 138-39<br /><br />"Mr. Lincoln's maxim and philosophy were: 'What is to be, will be, and no prayers of ours can arrest the decree.' He never joined any Church."<br />-- Mary Todd Lincoln in William Herndon's Religion of LincolnTigerboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794153016636051988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-49705586665806488222013-06-11T20:48:30.969-04:002013-06-11T20:48:30.969-04:00Let's see; Einstein wasn't an atheist, as ...Let's see; Einstein wasn't an atheist, as he believed in a non-personal deity. Benjamin Franklin was a deist who believed in the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the best morals ever conceived. Thomas Jefferson was also a deist who was in agreement with Franklin. Abraham Lincoln was not an atheist, and many believe he was a Christian who frequently read the New Testament. <br /><br />You should try getting educated on the subjects you pontificate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-26119794374600751052013-04-01T06:46:43.184-04:002013-04-01T06:46:43.184-04:00He didn't believe in a personal god, or any go...He didn't believe in a personal god, or any god really. He was atheist in all but name.GCThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744295225958022872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-89825028251172423242013-03-31T14:26:29.767-04:002013-03-31T14:26:29.767-04:00Hey no issue with your blog, not a Christian, jjus...Hey no issue with your blog, not a Christian, jjust wanted to point out, Einstein was not an atheist....so the meme is a bit false, lulzAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-20953227098421365262012-09-19T03:01:52.152-04:002012-09-19T03:01:52.152-04:00Kindness and empathy. The Golden Rule. Live and le...Kindness and empathy. The Golden Rule. Live and let live. These are good ideas.<br /><br />Supernatural parable bullshit is always taken too literally and inevitably leads to major conflict. (Check-out the Middle East!) Religion equals CONFLICT. If we are to survive, we MUST get past our ancient morality fables.<br /><br />Be kind to your fellow humans. Be empathetic.<br /><br />That's it! That's the whole thing.<br /><br />Empathy should be one's guiding principle. All the rest is just dangerous and too divisive. (Plus, the supernatural stuff is completely false! There's zero evidence for any of it)<br /><br />We are going to blow each other up, over the perceived petty desires of fictitious characters in the sky. This is very dangerous territory. As our population grows, and we have less space and fewer natural resources, and our bombs get more and more and more efficient, petty squabbles over the specific personality traits of intangible magic beings gets more and more threatening to our general welfare.<br /><br />Having "faith" is NOT a virtue!<br /><br />Empathy is a virtue.Tigerboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794153016636051988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-85270950788461071912012-09-19T02:10:54.440-04:002012-09-19T02:10:54.440-04:00Well, Anonymous seems unwilling, or unable, to ans...Well, Anonymous seems unwilling, or unable, to answer my questions about the importance of gullibility and faith in Paradise, over the importance of kindness and empathy.<br /><br />I'd like to hear from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCVKfmVvSlg&feature=related" rel="nofollow">someone else.</a>Tigerboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794153016636051988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-86422679591372451302012-09-12T17:08:45.028-04:002012-09-12T17:08:45.028-04:00Anonymous:
Why is it that this "Truth" ...Anonymous:<br /><br />Why is it that this "Truth" to which you refer has zero objective evidence to back it up? None.<br /><br />Not one scrap.<br /><br />Wouldn't you think Universal Truth should have SOMETHING concrete demonstrating that it is true? Anything?<br /><br />Why the shell game?<br /><br />Why is believing in something without any evidence (which is virtually the very definition of the word "faith") so good? Why is gullibility the highest virtue?<br /><br />Do you understand why gullibility should be a greater virtue than simple human kindness, or empathy? I do not.<br /><br />Why must I believe in outlandish stories that defy the laws of physics, in order to be seen as empathetic toward my neighbor?<br /><br />Why is faith in the reality of something invisible and intangible more important than kindness? Can you explain that?Tigerboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794153016636051988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-60656615209711687722012-09-11T06:58:38.366-04:002012-09-11T06:58:38.366-04:00You can say it all you like, but it doesn't ma...You can say it all you like, but it doesn't make it true. Einstein was a pantheist whose "god" was not personal and more of an idea of nature. He was a de-facto atheist - he just liked to use the poetic language of god.<br /><br />Secondly, apparently now arguing against religion is "hating on it." So be it. But, let's not pretend that religion has had and continues to have no deleterious effects on our lives. How often do we have to fight back against creationists trying to pollute our schools with their nonsense? How often do we have to fight back against the outright bigotry of Xians and others against women, gays, atheists, etc. How often do we have to do these things and more before someone who is as blinded by religious privilege as you finally understands the real harm done by religion?GCThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744295225958022872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-9420011193507737952012-09-10T12:06:36.530-04:002012-09-10T12:06:36.530-04:00Can I just say that Albert Einstein totally belie...Can I just say that Albert Einstein totally believed in God. (http://iwastesomuchtime.com/on/?i=49764) Oh and PS. I find it very sad that you feel you must waste your time making a blog against a religion. What have they ever done to you that you feel you must go out of your way to hate on them? Hope you come to the Truth soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-43493240459525258812012-08-28T06:58:30.447-04:002012-08-28T06:58:30.447-04:00The sarcasm stems from the line that Xians like to...The sarcasm stems from the line that Xians like to throw out that people who don't believe in god are fools/idiots. I don't actually believe those people were idiots (not all of them were technically atheists either).<br /><br />And, you need not look as far as terrorists to see the harm that faith and religion cause. Faith is believing in that which has no evidence, or in spite of contradictory evidence. It is not a virtue, and it does lead to problems, as we can plainly see with even a cursory look at current events.GCThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744295225958022872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-7104448503986883952012-08-27T07:56:52.043-04:002012-08-27T07:56:52.043-04:00Sorry if I was too rude, I don't usually like ...Sorry if I was too rude, I don't usually like to start a war. But I love science and don't like religion so this quite raged me, no matter when it's sarcasm or not.<br /><br />This isn't my style but I just like Sagan and all the things he brought to so many people.<br /><br />I wouldn't have anything against religion and be ok with that people believe in something that I don't believe at, but terrorists are warfaring because of it, you know. War takes a lot of money which could be spent on way better thingsHyperionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773860722794000886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-47503423395288093972012-08-27T06:58:59.083-04:002012-08-27T06:58:59.083-04:00Hyperion,
First off, let's please not use word...Hyperion,<br />First off, let's please not use words like "retarded" and "faggot."<br /><br />Secondly, I had thought that the sarcasm in the picture was obvious. Perhaps not?GCThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744295225958022872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-73807289708292965182012-08-25T06:55:28.133-04:002012-08-25T06:55:28.133-04:00Carl Sagan? Albert Einstein? Those people were a g...Carl Sagan? Albert Einstein? Those people were a great minds, brought so many people to science, revealed such astonishing discoveries and you call them IDIOTS?? The only idiots are you. The people sharing this false knowledge. I just can't fully write down how retarded and dumb you are... <br /><br />Please, believe in truth which is the <b>SCIENCE</b> and logical explanations of almost everything (and still getting closer and closer to explanation of truly everything). There are so many logical teories of life, of the universe, of everything, why the hell do you still believe in such stories of a God creating everything? When it's already explained by science? You, religion faggots, have blinded so many people by telling them this crap...<br /><br />By the way, Carl Sagan wasn't an atheist, but antagonistHyperionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773860722794000886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-19954347498295105332012-07-05T01:27:14.839-04:002012-07-05T01:27:14.839-04:00Look at how it played-out in my family.
I am the ...Look at how it played-out in my family.<br /><br />I am the youngest of four. There are more than 10 years between eldest and youngest.<br /><br />My parents were intelligent people who identified as Christians, but they were not fundamentalists by any means. They never took the Bible literally. They felt that religion was about good morals, that the stories were merely symbolic. They felt that it was a good idea to teach their children what they had been taught.<br /><br />For various reasons, my parents were a lot more enthusiastic in their parenting at the beginning of their marriage, rather than later. They were much more insistent that my older siblings attend services and receive religious instruction.<br /><br />By the time I came along, they had other issues to deal with.<br /><br />I flatly refused to participate in church, from a very early age, and I got away with it! I was able to escape the indoctrination. (The funny thing is, at this point, I am more educated about religion than my siblings are. They only know what the priests and the nuns taught them. I have studied religion more objectively. I know the subject better than they do. The other thing that helped me was that I studied Greek and Roman mythology, before I studied monotheism. It helped me see the absurdity, the fiction, and the manipulation.)<br /><br />To this day, while my older siblings know that religion is bullshit, it still tugs at them. They still cherish the traditions. They questioned whether they should send their kids to church. My siblings did not escape the indoctrination. They know it's a lie, but they can't help giving religion credit and value.<br /><br />We grew up in the same house, have the same values, have the same ability to reason. No one in my family actually believes the fairy tales. But, religion still calls to them.<br /><br />My brother's wife (like me) was able to escape the indoctrination that was given to her older sisters. She views religion in much the way I do, that it's foolish, it's dangerous, it's divisive. My brother was the one arguing on the side of taking their kids to church! (That amazes me, because he's a smart guy. He KNOWS it's just mythology, but the lessons of youth are impossible to forget.)<br /><br />I'm happy to report that my sister-in-law won that particular argument. Their kids never got any religion. My niece and nephew are almost adults, now, and they think religion is ridiculous.<br /><br />Progress.<br /><br />My older sister was married in a church with a full Catholic mass. She told me she didn't believe any of it, but she loved the tradition, the organ music, the candles. She wanted the tradition, but, as a non-believer, she never wanted to inflict the guilt on her son. She never taught him religion.<br /><br />25 years later, her adult son is as vocal an atheist as his uncle (me). He loves Dawkins and Hitchens.<br /><br />Just break the spell.<br /><br />Without the indoctrination of youth, religion becomes a bad joke.Tigerboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794153016636051988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-38709053825290701942012-07-05T00:17:48.241-04:002012-07-05T00:17:48.241-04:00People not only get bad, judgmental, hateful, divi...People not only get bad, judgmental, hateful, divisive ideas from religion, but it becomes their moral obligation that these ideas become indoctrinated into each new generation of the young. <br /><br />The young are taught that one CANNOT BE a good person without these absurd ideas, that a lack of faith equals a lack of moral worth.<br /><br />As the church fathers are all too well aware, indoctrination must begin at an early age. If a child escapes these far-fetched ideas of morality, they will RARELY adopt them as a young adult.<br /><br />Get 'em young, and they will feel obligated to teach the same bad ideas to THEIR children, and so on, and so on, and so on . . . .<br /><br />Religion breeds religion.<br /><br />(Like racism.)<br /><br />Break the spell.Tigerboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794153016636051988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-91863848722726462612012-07-03T06:58:13.484-04:002012-07-03T06:58:13.484-04:00zt,
No one is claiming that if all religion went a...zt,<br />No one is claiming that if all religion went away that all evil would also disappear, but you can't discount the negative effects that stem from religion. Whether it's religious teachings that tell us that gays/women/atheists are evil, the us vs. them mentality that it naturally breeds, or the use of faith, religion is the vehicle that supplies these points of view and is therefore culpable when harm is done in the name of religion. Yes, the people who do these things are to blame as well, but they get their ideas from religion too.GCThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744295225958022872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-46276887294001163602012-07-03T03:06:10.119-04:002012-07-03T03:06:10.119-04:00Though I may be anti-religion, you can't truly...Though I may be anti-religion, you can't truly place the blame on religion because it is merely a vehicle/tool. Even if religion didn't exist, it's safe to say that we would still have assholes, war, discrimination, and hatred. People are the ones to blame.ztnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-22091498648507885762012-03-08T07:02:22.135-05:002012-03-08T07:02:22.135-05:00Einstein was only Jewish by birth.
But, I'm c...Einstein was only Jewish by birth.<br /><br />But, I'm curious why we can't blame religion. It's generally due to religious privilege where religions are off-limits and everything good is ascribed to religion by fiat. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Religions teach some very nasty things and they rely on a faulty method that leads to atrocities such as those that I've pointed out. Let me repeat that: the very method of religion leads to these atrocities. It is the fault of religion for relying upon a method that simply does not work (faith).<br /><br />Now, the people involved also bear responsibility, but we can not absolve religion, especially not for dubious reasons based on religious privilege.GCThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09744295225958022872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-42702636085834157752012-03-08T00:40:00.152-05:002012-03-08T00:40:00.152-05:00Anonymous said: ---"Abraham Lincoln was VERY...Anonymous said: ---"Abraham Lincoln was VERY religious (according to his widow.)"<br /><br />Well, let's hear from the man and wife, themselves:<br /><br />---"It will not do to investigate the subject of religion too closely, as it is apt to lead to Infidelity." -- Abraham Lincoln, Manford's Magazine, quoted from Franklin Steiner in The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents<br /><br />---"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession." -- Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Joseph Lewis in Lincoln the Freethinker<br /><br />---"Mr. Lincoln had no hope, and no faith, in the usual acceptation of those words." -- Mary Todd Lincoln, to Colonel Ward H Lamon in his Life of Abraham Lincoln<br /><br />The key part of your misstatement of the true facts is:<br /><br />" . . . according to his widow."<br /><br />It was Mary Todd Lincoln who was "VERY religious," and despite her clear statement to the contrary, above, Mrs. Lincoln was ever hopeful that he would finally embrace the faith, and often tried to refer to her husband as a pious man, which he was not. Ever disappointed by her husband's lack of religious belief, it was a major conflict (among many) in their very turbulent marriage. Plus, she was nuts! Let's pay greater attention to what the man, himself, said and leave the conflicting, rambling thoughts of Crazy Mary by the side of the road.<br /><br />There is much reason to think Lincoln was atheist, or at the very least agnostic. There are numerous quotes wherein Mr. Lincoln clearly distances himself from faith, or denies it, outright. It is quite plain that he was no fan of the Bible.Tigerboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794153016636051988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-74191325739371271432012-03-07T23:16:04.918-05:002012-03-07T23:16:04.918-05:00About your picture...
*Einstein was Jewish (sort...About your picture... <br /><br />*Einstein was Jewish (sort of)<br />*Benjamin Franklin was Deistic<br />*Abraham Lincoln was VERY religious (according to his widow)<br />*everyone else, i'm not sure<br /><br />But a lot of your arguments are valid, and i'm glad to hear about these cases about corruption in religious officials. But please, don't blame the religions for this, blame the guy who committed the crime. Those mentioned in your posts are merely not practicing what they're preaching.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5246253500962288290.post-16481877299961053672012-01-24T14:27:07.302-05:002012-01-24T14:27:07.302-05:00Considering the overwhelmingly fundamentalist atti...Considering the overwhelmingly fundamentalist attitudes that prevailed in 1776, I'd say that identifying one's self as a Deist, i.e. not a Christian, should be considered a BOLD statement of anti-theism.<br /><br />To claim that there must be a "prime architect," but that there is no evidence that He has any interaction with humanity, is about a half a centimeter away from saying: "There is no evidence for God, but I still think I see purpose in the form of the world."<br /><br />Not only is science explaining the form of the world very well, but it also has determined that the psychological makeup of Homo sapiens is that we are relentless pattern-seekers. We are really good at identifying and relating to patterns. It is survival strategy. It is part of why we can speak and understand language. It has enabled us to identify the concepts in math, science, architecture, chemistry.<br /><br />Our attention to the patterns in seasonal change, astronomy, and weather have made us successful farmers (and taken us to the Moon and back). We look for, and believe we see, pattern and purposeful intention in everything! (How many people think they see the Moon as a face?)<br /><br />Pattern-seeking. It's the basis for logic. Those tendencies to see purpose and logic in the design of all things is deeply-ingrained in us.<br /><br />But, actual intent? Purposeful intentional design? From a distinct, all-powerful personality? This is where logic collides with our baser instincts.<br /><br />It is not logical that a being powerful enough to create a universe would not have it's own genesis. First cause must have first cause. Infinite regression.<br /><br />Complicated beings, which, by definition, Omni-Max must be, ALL COMPLICATED THINGS must form from simpler things, not the other way around.<br /><br />To say that God is eternal is not only a huge intellectual cop-out, but it begs the question: "Why would a truly eternal being have even the slightest interest in anything temporal, let alone how the temporal eats, dresses, or fornicates?" I don't know how a truly eternal being could even form a concept of the temporal, just as the temporal cannot truly understand the eternal. (Actually, I don't think we have seen any evidence that ANYTHING IS eternal. The concepts of "eternal" and "infinite" are merely human abstractions.) <br /><br />Deism says: "No God is apparent to me, yet the world is so beautiful and orderly, it looks created." Sorry, that's just us doing our pattern-seeking thing.<br /><br />Not only is there no evidence for God, the concept is illogical. The Abrahamic notions of God, the parables and divine revelations, the petty vengeance and retribution for offense, are just childish.<br /><br />Without doubt, Jefferson and Franklin and some of the other founders were greatly influenced by the ideas of Voltaire. He, too, was a Deist.<br /><br />But, Voltaire had scathing things to say about all three of the Abrahamic monotheisms. He thought they were dangerous. Voltaire and Jefferson both recognize the crucial necessity of a "Separation of Church and State."<br /><br />Votaire wrote:<br /><br />---"The truths of religion are never so well-understood as by those who have lost the power of reasoning."<br />---"Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world."<br />---"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities."<br /><br />Deism was the "free thought" of its day. Given that Jefferson was strongly influenced by Voltaire's ideas, I guess we could say that this country was established on ideas that were much closer to atheism than to Christianity.Tigerboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794153016636051988noreply@blogger.com