It seems that other denominations have leaders that like to victimize their congregants too. My question: didn't anyone think to question the idea of this guy having teenaged girls over to pour honey on them and then have them shower? My guess is that he got a free pass because of the undeserved honor placed on so-called holy men. Because he's in tight with Jesus, everyone assumes that he won't do something like this. It's high time that we drop the bad assumption that religious = good.
And, it's not just Xianity either, as this story shows. Yeah, these guys have even got the indifference and stonewalling of the Catholics down pat. Perhaps Hitchens was right when he said that religion poisons everything.
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Jesus feels like sucking off a bum today.
JESUS FUCKING SUCKS FUCK YOU JEW BASTARDS
People like you like to regurgitate 2,000 year old criticisms of Christianity. Do you actually think you are the first person to say these things? Why don't you do something constructive and be original.
These criticisms, no matter how old have never actually been addressed by Xians, so you can't simply hand-wave them away by appealing to the fact that you and yours have not ever answered them.
So, why don't you do something constructive and original and actually answer some of the objections laid out?
This website is a piece of shit... Ya hate Jesus cause you are angry that ur lives have not been accomplished n u want someone to blame... i know cuz i did, i was lost but if u just bend down on yas knees n pray, youll feel a light. If u dont u need healing.
"This website is a piece of shit."
Yay, Xian love. So, do tell what it is on this website that is wrong, and please provide some cogent arguments. Simply declaring that the website sux isn't very compelling.
"Ya hate Jesus cause you are angry that ur lives have not been accomplished n u want someone to blame."
Sure, whatever you say. Never mind the fact that you can't actually hate a fictional character (the blog title is hyperbole) and that you know very little about me, but hey, maybe god gives you ESP? I'm also relieved to receive even more Xian love in the form of your bigoted and stereotypical accusations.
"if u just bend down on yas knees n pray, youll feel a light."
This is demonstrably false for many atheists out there who were former believers and tried desperately to feel "a light" as you put it, but ended up feeling nothing.
"If u dont u need healing."
Healing? From whom? From where? What kind of healing? Would that be the kind of healing practices that Xians used for many years not too long ago that involved thumbscrews and other torture devices? Or, would that be some sort of healing that can only come through your contradictory god?
So, if you come back, perhaps you could actually make a cogent argument that's backed by more than your say-so and actually attempt to present yourself and Xianity in a more positive light?
owner this blog .just answer me plz..
are you a whore??؟
an egyption muslim engineer fukun stupid gay..not guy
that`s you bustard owner this piece of shit=yr blog
put yr mid finger in yr ass you`ll feel better hhhhhhh
Wow, apparently you're a homophobic, sexist, racist, atheophobic bigot. What a stunning intellect you have.
So, why do you hate so many people?
Oh dear me. It seems that this blog attracts all kinds of uncouth and ill-educated louts.
Ms. Anonymous Can'tSpellYet apparently suffers from synthesia as she is able to "feel" light when doing knee bends. Now that her life has been accomplished (does that mean she is dead?) she no longer hates Jesus because she no longer needs to blame someone. That reasoning might make sense to adolescents who do poorly at school, but for the rest of us, it is merely an embarrassing cue that the writer is immature and/or poorly socialized.
Another person by the same name (this guy has written an overwhelming amount of stuff over the centuries) uses CAPS LOCK to swear and throw crudities and racist insults. It's the kind of behavior a parent would expect from an 8 year old who has suddenly discovered how to get attention by shocking people.
Are these the depths of depravity that result from religion?
OTOH, dear GCT, that heading is rather provocative, at least for those who believe that Jesus was a real person who really said exactly what he is quoted as saying in their preferred translation of the holy books determined to be divinely inspired by a bunch of fallible Catholic Fathers in the 4th Century.
Fuck god, jesus and chistianity
GCT,
How about a special holiday commentary on Thanksgiving?
Giving thanks to God is a fundamental aspect of Christianity. We are told to give thanks always, for the good things we receive, and for the not-so-good as well (not so good from our immediate perspective, anyway). The implication is that there is something essential to our relationship with God that requires an attitude of thankfulness.
Of course, from an atheist point of view, there is no one to be thankful to, so the concept of having a thankful attitude has no meaning. Am I right about that, or can an atheist have a thankful attitude in the absence of God?
Tigerboy, I expect you will have much to say about this, particularly with regard to the selective advantage of thankfulness during human evolution.
Thanks in advance for your reply.
A couple of years ago, at a big Thanksgiving Day party that was attended by a very broad range of people of various ethnicities and faith identifications, I was speaking with someone about holidays, in general, and I said:
---"One of the things I really love about Thanksgiving is that it is such a nice family holiday where people can just express their love and gratitude to one and other, and it doesn't have any of that religious tension and rancor that comes a month later."
His response to me was:
"Of course Thanksgiving is religious. Whom do you think we are expressing our thankfulness to?"
My answer: "Um, each other."
I grew up in America, and I learned all about the Pilgrims and the Indians, just like any other schoolchild, but I have never seen Thanksgiving as anything but an entirely secular holiday about expressing love and gratitude to my loved ones.
This party I'm referring to was attended by Christians, Atheists, Hindus, Muslims, and Jews. I've attended all kinds of different Thanksgiving events, over the years. Religion rarely, if ever, seems to be the point of the event.
How many traditions that take place a month later seem entirely free of religious dogma?
The fact that the man to whom I was speaking was Jewish hadn't even crossed my mind. Would that have been true at a Hanukkah party? As an atheist, would I even have been invited to a Hanukkah party?
I recognize that the roots of Thanksgiving are about giving thanks to God. However, the way most Americans celebrate this lovely holiday, it's much more secular and inclusive than Christmas, and religion is usually the last thing on people's minds.
Maybe that's why it's about football, too. Thanksgiving is like staying home from church on Sunday to watch the game. It's a nice holiday where everyone eats a bunch of food, and says "What's up?" to the cousins and friends they haven't seen in awhile.
A mindset of happiness, and awareness of the ways in which one is lucky, and a willingness to express gratitude to one's family and other loved ones, and a sense of charity and helpfulness toward those less fortunate . . . these frames of mind are human, not supernatural.
Love and charity make us feel more human, more grounded. It's just a way to reaffirm family ties.
Thanksgiving is nice. There's very little guilt attached to Thanksgiving.
The lovely feelings of gratitude are for each other, and they come from us, not the Burning Bush.
Rosemary,
I fished your comment out of the spam filter...no idea how it got there.
"...for those who believe that Jesus was a real person who really said exactly what he is quoted as saying in their preferred translation of the holy books..."
I think what you meant to say was that they believe Jesus said all the watered down things that they've been taught to believe he said. They rarely bother to think about Jesus's racist rant against the Syrophenician woman, his idea on thought crime, etc.
Carpe,
I'm with Tigerboy on this, except with one caveat. He said, "I recognize that the roots of Thanksgiving are about giving thanks to God," which I disagree with. The roots of thanksgiving are in pagan festivals to celebrate the fall harvest. Xianity has since tried to co-op it, as they have other holidays, like Xmas.
Still, thankfulness is a feeling that people have where they are simply happy for the good things in life. There's no need to include or invoke god in any of it.
I meant the roots of the American Pilgrims-and-Indians vision of Thanksgiving is about giving thanks to God. The Pilgrims were total religious freaks.
There's no doubt that harvest festivals way predate the Pilgrims arrival at Plymouth. They predate Christianity.
But, my larger point was that it is the very fact that religion has been so successfully removed from Thanksgiving that makes it feel so inclusive.
Religion divides us. A good dinner with friends and family, without dogma, brings us together.
Well, come on - it's time for a new post, not another comment! This comment blows. A new post wouldn't!
im a christian and i love Christ but i dont like religion .
Sigh. You are part of a religion, whether you like to use that word or not. It's the appropriate term.
Exactly. By embracing the magic Savior, you are embracing all the attendant ideas of punishment for sin and divine retribution.
I was just reading about this new religion: "A Course in Miracles." It's New Age stuff, Marianne Williamson bullshit, with just enough Jesus folded in to make Christians happy and comfortable. They're making big money selling books.
"A Course in Miracles" is all about love and forgiveness. They would NEVER start preaching about Hell and divine retribution.
But, that stuff is always just around the corner, isn't it? It's automatically implied. Whenever someone makes claims to know the "right" way to behave in order to please the spirit-world, there is always the "other side of the coin." There is always some implied down-side to improper behavior.
Do EXACTLY as I say, or suffer the consequences.
"A Course in Miracles" has a dose of "karma" stuff thrown in. Be kind and forgiving, or you will suffer the "lack of enlightenment" that, while it's not exactly the threats of damnation, will keep you doomed to remain in unhappiness. God equals joy, we are not of these bodies, love is salvation, blah, blah, blah. God is eternal, we are temporary, don't value the here and now, wait for paradise, blah, blah, blah.
Isn't the Universe "miraculous" enough? Why do we need to invent bullshit mythology?
Why can't we study science and ethics, without making-up obvious fiction?
Why can't we recognize the value of treating each other well, without threats from Santa?
so whats the point of this blog? What do you hope to accomplish by saying that Jesus didnt exist and the bible is a magic book?
btw: Atheist have ask much blood on their hands than any other religious group, Christian or other wise
How many atheists have killed in the name of atheism?
The point of the blog is to point out that religion is irrational and counter-productive to the human condition. Religion has been a stumbling block in humanity's struggle for equal rights, for instance, virtually every step of the way. It's a faulty methodology for determining truths about the world. It's a built-in mechanism for assigning in and out groups that encourages hatred and violence. If more people stand up and speak out, then religion loses its insidious grip just that much more, which is a net good for humanity.
I am a new atheist and I have a question. How do you avoid being afraid of nonexistence after death?
Were you afraid of nonexistence before birth?
Nothing in the Universe lasts forever.
That's what makes life precious.
If we actually lived eternally, would your life be something dear, something valuable?
The wish to live forever is a childish wish. It shows a basic misunderstanding about what a stagnating nightmare Eternity would be.
Think of some other childish, unrealistic wish that you know is not actually gonna come true:
--"I wish I could win 100 million dollars in the lottery!"
--"I wish I had magic powers!"
--"I wish I could be super-strong and fly around the world like Superman!"
--"I wish I could be invisible!"
How ever will you deal with the fear that these things won't actually happen? You know what? It's fine. You'll be just fine if those things don't happen.
Real life is pretty special. I recommend you take a moment, stop and smell the flowers, think about how much you love your family, think about all the realistic dreams you might actually make happen in your life, take a walk on a beach, appreciate a beautiful sunset, learn scuba diving, whatever, and enjoy the spectacular true experience of your real, actual life.
Fantasies are fun, but so is reality.
Despite everything I have said about Eternity being a stagnating nightmare, even that is an interpretation from a temporal perspective. Humans enjoy overcoming hardships. We enjoy a challenge. My human self would hate the idea of eternal stagnation. However, I actually believe that the notion of "nightmare" is just as unsustainable for eternity as the notion of "joy."
Pain-hunger-ecstasy-anguish-peace-wonder . . . these are temporary states of being. They ONLY exist in juxtaposition to different states.
Religious notions of eternity would seem to preclude the idea of "good days and bad days." How can one have "good days" without the possibility of "bad days?" It would seem to me that actual E-T-E-R-N-I-T-Y would negate any possibility of mood changes, good or bad. One would merely exist.
It would seem that a truly eternal being would have absolutely no frame of reference to relate to anything temporal. How could an eternal being understand the concept of "fear of death?" It couldn't.
Everyday human pains and pleasures? I don't think so! The notions of "joy" and "agony" would have no meaning in an eternal existence.
I am also desperate with Jesus, but he is the Way, Truth and life, he is almighty, he is loard Krishna, He is Loard Kalki & He will reign the world for 1000 years. He is so busy with many universal problems, so he has no time to sort out our problems. the place where he presently stay is quiet dense so that gravity is 1000 times greater than our earth. so for him, our 1000 year is equal to only one day. so his action is very slow. but HE is EVERYTHING. I am not a supporter of almight, but I support, truth, way and life. I am not a begger for money and comfort & position, still I love Jesus because, He loved all the 60 billion people living in the world.Unfortuanly we are very far away from him due to certain reasons. we have to find it out.
"He is so busy with many universal problems, so he has no time to sort out our problems."
Then he is not all-mighty as you claim. So, which is it?
"the place where he presently stay is quiet dense so that gravity is 1000 times greater than our earth. so for him, our 1000 year is equal to only one day."
And, you know this how? And, this makes sense how? I think your math needs some work. Gravity does not necessarily correlate with a longer day. Take Jupiter, for instance. Jupiter's gravity is ~2.5x the gravity of Earth, yet the day is shorter ~10 hrs. According to your math, 2.5 years on Earth should be 1 day on Jupiter.
"still I love Jesus because, He loved all the 60 billion people living in the world."
Wow, that's a lot of people. In fact, 2000 years ago the estimate is that only 50-60 million (not billion) people existed. Today, we have 7 billion people.
"Unfortuanly we are very far away from him due to certain reasons."
He doesn't call, he doesn't write...
God is hate!
God is evil.
I'm baffled by this site. It's fine that you're an atheist, and everything, but why post these pictures depicting Jesus doing various, silly things? Wouldn't it be better to state your opinion in a civilized manner without posting pictures of a "magic" or "imaginary" Savior? It seems you're doing this more for shock value. Furthermore, look at some of the comments from other so-called atheists on this board: "JESUS FUCKING SUCKS YOU JEW BASTARDS" or "Jesus feels like sucking a bum". Are atheists really that sophomoric? Look at the people you're attracting to your blog.
I'm all for free speech and freedom to choose religion or not to choose it, but cannot understand or fathom juvenile ranting.
"but why post these pictures depicting Jesus doing various, silly things?"
Humor. And, what is that old saying about judging books and their covers?
"Wouldn't it be better to state your opinion in a civilized manner without posting pictures of a "magic" or "imaginary" Savior?"
I do that as well. And, Jesus is imaginary.
"It seems you're doing this more for shock value."
That's because you have to actually read the arguments.
"Are atheists really that sophomoric?"
And, you'll note that I've spoken up sometimes. But, I get that sometimes people need to blow off steam in a culture that is saturated with your religious privilege.
"I'm all for free speech and freedom to choose religion or not to choose it, but cannot understand or fathom juvenile ranting."
I see. You look at the pictures and the comments by a select few and are allowed to discard everything on the site as "juvenile ranting?" I doubt you could answer the objections that I bring up. Instead, you have to attack superficial things so that you can buttress your own faith and make yourself feel better.
Who said I was religious? You make too many assumptions. It rather sums up your life, doesn't it? Your whole life is just a whole lump of assumptions - You sad, sad person you. I wouldn't say I disagree with your views - maybe I'm an atheist too. I would rather just root out useless ones like yourself because I don't wish to be compared to some dreg like you. That's what you are - You're a sad, useless, lonely dreg, aren't you?
Who's making assumptions, here?
You pick out a few comments from other people, read a few cartoons, and then you assign all kinds of personality attributes to GCT that you would have no way of knowing!
Why don't you try investigating what GCT has to say, or, better yet, engage in a dialogue?
---"I'm all for free speech . . . "
. . . except when I don't like it.
Religion gets ENDLESS privilege in this society! That sometimes inspires great anger. A little cursing and a little anger is healthy. You like free speech? Well, that's free speech!
I have been on countless religious blogs where the comments are censored. I admire GCT for allowing commenters to say what they wish. If you don't like what some other person has written, too bad! Don't take it out on GCT. I hear people say things that I don't like with great frequency. I either address it, or I get over it!
The "marketplace of free ideas" is a rough-and-tumble world. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Try reading what GCT has actually written. (I know reading and thinking is much harder than scanning a few cartoons and jumping to conclusions, but give it a try.)
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