Saturday, 6 December 2008

Unforgivable Sin


I'm sure by now that we've all heard of the "Blasphemy Challenge." And we all know that anyone who blasphemes the holy spirit can never be forgiven. I'm at a loss as to why this is such a heinous crime, however. Is it really worse for me to say, "The holy spirit is a wanker," than to go out and kill someone? Yet, god, it seems, would rather I kill someone than talk trash about one specific aspect of him. Curiously enough, it's not unforgivable to say that "Jesus is a wanker."

And, why would an all-loving god lay down a rule that says that one can not be forgiven for something - that one must go to hell if one breaks rule X?

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

that's great!

Anonymous said...

"And, why would an all-loving god lay down a rule that says that one can not be forgiven for something -that one must go to hell if one breaks rule X?"

uuh ... because he's an asshole?

bud said...

blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not name calling, it is refusing to accept His gift. Salvation is an offer, not a mandate. and an offer, by definition, requires at least 2 options.

Anonymous said...

well actually bud, you are then the only person who knows exactly what blasmephy of the holy spirit entails. i've probably asked over 25 people during the course of my life and no one knows, because like so much of the bible, some bullshit is thrown out there and you're left to try to understand what was meant. man!! for such a perfect god, he sure did screw up with the communication.

Anonymous said...

well actually bud, you are then the only person who knows exactly what blasmephy of the holy spirit entails. i've probably asked over 25 people during the course of my life and no one knows, because like so much of the bible, some bullshit is thrown out there and you're left to try to understand what was meant. man!! for such a perfect god, he sure did screw up with the communication.

bud said...

You are right when you say that we are left to try to understand what was meant. But I would propose that this is by design. When one becomes a believer, reading and studying the Bible becomes a primary and desired discipline. For example, lets say that chemistry is your favorite study. The first thing that you learn is that water is H2O. Now, you want to know more. What are acids, bases, and how do they interact. You can not grow if you only stick with the formula for water. You need challenges for learning, and this is also part of the process that makes any particular endeavor enjoyable.
In the Bible, Genesis 1:1 is very straight forward. "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." It is easily understood, whether one believes it or not. The last Book, The Book of Revelation, is extremely difficult to understand. Few theologians get a good grasp of its meaning, but many are drawn to the challenge. The Bible is so challenging, that many tenets will never be fully understood in this life. But the Author knew exactly what He was writing.

GCT said...

It's refreshing to know that god made the choices and interpretations that our very souls depend upon as complicated as he did. I just couldn't bring myself to respect a god that makes it easy to understand how to be a good person and how to avoid hell. Throwing up roadblocks to salvation is a brilliant idea, don't you think?

bud said...

Personally, I don't think roadblocks are even a good idea, but a lot of people disagree. By using the lower case "g" that implies that The Almighty God I refer to, is not the same one who you cite. A god, without distinction, is not as powerful as the person who worships it.

Thus this person is actually their own god, because their priorities put themselves as the most important and powerful entity in their life. And the self imposed roadblock by this (false) god, is the most common type of the rejection of salvation, leading to "Blaspheming the Holy Spirit."

I stated "When one becomes a believer," to separate the process of salvation, from growth in the faith. Being a Christian is understanding that Jesus is the Son of God, and that He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Even non-Christians will acknowledge that this is the foundation of Christianity. It is a very basic foundation, not at all complicated.

The hard part, the main roadblock, is rejecting our self as god, accepting His Deity, and the gift of salvation that only He can provide.

Anonymous said...

Bud, I have to disagree with you on this that you said "In the Bible, Genesis 1:1 is very straight forward. "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." It is easily understood, whether one believes it or not." There is nothing straight forward about that verse and it has created heartache for many people trying to figure out "where". In "the beginning" begs the question, and what about "before" "the beginning" or then "what was god's beginning'"? I think that this supports the notion that god is man-made in that 1)the text is written within the time/space continuum experienced by men and 2)a supreme being, to prevent confusion and even the eventual path to hell from disbelieve, would make it clearer about such space/time.

Kold_Kadavr_flatliner said...

You're mistaken again, my friend. God appears at the End of thy mortal life and asks you if you'd wanna join Him, to either be cast-out or happy withe 'woman' you love forever. However, before that, comes Purgatory, which I shall go to... to wipe-out the sins you have committed in this Finite Existence. Better than sending you to the Abyss. We all have free-will. Nevertheless, if you say FIAT, you get to make love forever, if you say NO, as Satan did, you shall be cast into the outer darkness where there'll be wailing and gnashing of teeth forever. Your choice. Your demise. God ain't holding your hand. He will, though, if you'd accept His promise to have Her (you're a male, I assume, and you wanna be with a female for eternity). God can do anything and if you read our fab-YOU-lously killer blog all the Way through, you'd see what I mean. Love ya, man. Be at peace.

GCT said...

K_K_f
"God appears at the End of thy mortal life and asks you if you'd wanna join Him, to either be cast-out or happy withe 'woman' you love forever."

Are you saying that A) god allows any and all into heaven at the end of life so long as you say "yes" and B) that heaven is simply living with the same person that you love for eternity?

"However, before that, comes Purgatory, which I shall go to... to wipe-out the sins you have committed in this Finite Existence."

Please provide some Biblical support for the idea of Purgatory. And, what counts as "sins?" Should I have to wait to get to heaven simply for disbelief?

"Better than sending you to the Abyss."

Yes, it would be better, but that's not what your Bible says.