Friday, 2 May 2008

God's Plans

Does god have plans for you? Does god have plans for the universe? Can god's plans be upset? IOW, can you do something that violates what god has planned; something that makes god's plan not turn out the way he planned? I think that if you believe in the omni-max god that most Xians believe in, the answer is no.

So, what does that mean? That means that everything that happens, does so according to god's plan. That everything you think, say, do, etc. is all according to the plan that god set forth from the beginning of the universe. The inescapable next step is to realize that when people go to hell, this must also be part of god's plan. god has planned that people will go to hell where they will suffer for all of eternity; where they will be tortured. god is supposedly all-loving omni-benevolent, however, which sets up a contradictory situation in that an all-loving, omni-benevolent deity has intentionally set up a plan where most (as per the Bible) people will be tortured for eternity.

There are, of course, other ramifications to consider, like the story of Adam and Eve where god punishes us and passes their "sins" onto all of us through hereditary means which must have been planned all along. (As an aside, I've heard some Xian claim that this was done so that Jesus could come along a couple thousand years later to save us all, thus begging the question as to why god felt it was a good idea to make us all need saving just so he could come and save us, but whatever.) There's also the story of Noah's ark, where god knew that humanity would disbelieve and that he would kill off almost all of humanity, which he must have planned to do from the very start. There are others as well, but I won't go into them all. Suffice it to say that god can not have the attributes that most Xians ascribe to him while simultaneously holding to the doctrines of Xianity, as they are internally inconsistent and self-contradictory.


Anonymous said...

I've been saying this for so long now. How can people believe god has a plan for us all yet we still have free will? If god really does have all the omnis, he must know every tiny decision each one of us makes, and if he has a "plan" then we CAN'T have free will.

I just don't understand how christians don't realize this... and every other of the thousands of contradictions in their religion.

Nicole said...

my response to the "this is all part of god's plan' Is always

THIS is the plan ??????